tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395386597298338483.post3187494534708438279..comments2023-10-30T07:41:42.272-05:00Comments on The Den of Snobbery: Day 249: About TimeElitist Movie Snobhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15903495267094812095noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395386597298338483.post-54679160354535890512013-11-15T09:06:31.465-06:002013-11-15T09:06:31.465-06:00Even as a woman I suppose that didn't really b...Even as a woman I suppose that didn't really bother me, him not sharing it. It feels established from the beginning as a male family secret, and since all the men that we meet from the family are genuine and sweet, and we know they'll only use their powers for good, I just accepted it and took it at face value. The time travel was not something I was going to think too hard about anyway. Even Richard Curtis admits that if he could go back he'd probably change that aspect and give the females a power too. His daughter said she wanted them to reveal that they could fly.<br /><br />True, revealing the secret would have potentially added more conflict, that was pretty lacking, but I think because the only kind of conflict that could ensue would be a "are they going to make it," type of conflict (and it wasn't that kind of movie) they stayed away from it, and I can appreciate that. I almost thought he was about to reveal it in that "I want a 3rd baby" scene. I think he was pretty close and thought about it. I also think she would have accepted it, because she wouldn't have wanted him to go through the suffering with his dad. I think they were sort of mirroring the scene when he wanted the 2nd kid and she said "no way," only because of what we knew about his secret, it was just more serious. Also, if his mom had known, I think she would have freaked out about his death and tried to get him to go back and not get sick and that would mess up their whole timeline....which could actually be another interesting story, if you think about it. <br /><br />No I am glad you answered with a question, because I love discussing this kind of stuff!Susan Sjodinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05339071281498504547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395386597298338483.post-71489748566701146162013-11-15T08:19:49.889-06:002013-11-15T08:19:49.889-06:00First of all, thank you for commenting, it's b...First of all, thank you for commenting, it's been ages since anyone's commented on one of my reviews, and I had always intended this to be a forum for discussion, so I genuinely appreciate it.<br /><br />The first aspect that you mentioned is not, to my mind, creepy at all because as you mentioned, he says that no amount of time travel can make someone fall in love with you, and with that rule established, he's just ensuring that a girl he already had a connection with didn't end up with some other dude. I didn't see that as creepy one bit.<br /><br />A lingering issue that does bother me to an extent (not enough to make the whole thing a deal breaker) is the fact that he keeps Mary totally in the dark about his ability. The scene where she asks him about the third child and he hems and haws because he (and conversely we the audience) knows that this means he can't ever see his dad again. If seen exclusively through Mary's eyes, this scene plays out with her likely getting upset about him not immediately jumping at the idea of a third child, and would likely have ended badly. However since we know that he needs this moment to consider the conundrum a third child presents for Tim, we know why it has to play out in this way. <br /><br />It was only in retrospect that this bothered me a tad, and I'm surprised that more women are not upset about the fact that Tim keeps this entire thing secret from her for their relationship. We get to see that he doesn't use his ability for any nefarious purposes, but it seems like an awfully big thing to keep secret from the person you're sharing your life with. It's a catch-22 to be sure, because I likely would have dreaded even more the convention of him sharing it with her and her misunderstanding and wanting to leave him, but I'm honestly surprised that this is not a bigger sticking point for some people, women in particular. <br /><br />Again, all of these thoughts occurred in retrospect, so maybe some people haven't put that all together yet, but it's interesting to consider. I hate to answer your question with a question, but what did you think about that?Elitist Movie Snobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15903495267094812095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6395386597298338483.post-14767074323573202922013-11-15T00:05:25.282-06:002013-11-15T00:05:25.282-06:00So, I loved this movie, and I figured I would, bec...So, I loved this movie, and I figured I would, because I am nothing if not an anglophile. In fact, I even liked it more than I expected, mostly because I thought the cast was just so dang charming, and I like the tone and feel of it. I don't think it's perfect by any means, but I completely fell in love with it. If we only loved that which was perfect...well, that's another story.<br /><br />I've been reading some reviews of this film wherein the reviewer seems to think that the time travel aspect of Tim and Mary's relationship was a little creepy and manipulative. I happen to disagree because I feel that they fell in love at first meeting, in the restaurant, on the street, and that had he not gone back to save the play, their relationship would still have played out the same and they would have still been together. He already established that you couldn't make someone fall in love with you. There's kind of a sense of destiny, I suppose, as cheesy as that is, I think they'd fall in love every time they met because they were right for each other. If Tim had in fact stayed with scenario where she had the other boyfriend, I think eventually she'd have dumped that guy and again, their relationship would have resolved itself (but obviously if you can time travel your'e not going to wait for that to play out, why would you?).<br /><br />So, my whole point in this winded comment is only to say, I don't find it creepy or manipulative at all. He didn't force her to love him, he didn't keep her from some better future or alter her mind in any way. He just had to meet her and it was bound to happen. <br /><br />It didn't seem from your review that you found it creepy, but I am just a little curious about your thoughts on this. I realize I'm probably spending more time thinking about this movie than you are...but hey, it is what it is.Susan Sjodinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05339071281498504547noreply@blogger.com